I was actually planning on creating this article earlier this day, when looking here I noticed you created it :P. Wythagoras (talk) 13:47, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
SUP DOODz[]
Copied from old revision for this article, by Sam himself:
Sam's Number was created by YouTuber SammySpore, and you can view his YouTube page at https://m.youtube.com/user/TheSammySpore. SammySpore is also Sam's wikia user. Sam's Number was created as a joke.
Sup dudes I'm SammySpore. Haha, I'm famous now. Wow. I am actually really excited now. It's okay if u delete this. It'll provably become another inside joke on the wiki. ;)
-- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 05:02, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
- I think only first paragraph should be in the article. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 06:15, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
- "It'll provably become another inside joke on the wiki. ;)" keep telling yourself that it's vel time 22:27, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
- "provably"? I can't wait to see a proof! LittlePeng9 (talk) 22:28, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
"it was a joke"[]
o rly King2218 (talk) 06:59, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
Just a probably wrong guess[]
Sammy just tried to define an English-indescribable cardinal without any paradox. Guess he failed... or did it? 80.98.179.160 20:13, December 30, 2017 (UTC)
Category[]
I reverted the edit adding this article to non-existing categories. Please create the category pages if you want to add it to them, and clarify what articles to add to them. Otherwise, other users cannot guess the difference of the non-existing category for "joke" and the existing category for "humor".
p-adic 23:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit war about a category. Please discuss the validity here instead of repeating adding it to the category.
p-adic 12:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Just don't re-add the category Category:Uncomputable into this page repeatedly, unlike other ill-defined counterparts Hollom's number, Oblivion, and Utter Oblivion. DeepLineMadom (talk) 10:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think if User:Rico Val Villaflor attempts to re-add this category into this page again, the user may be blocked from editing. Of course, the user should be blocked for 2 weeks from add the category into the page again. DeepLineMadom (talk) 10:20, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Well, you wrote "Reply p進大好きbot" at the edit summary, but I am not certain what to reply. I just suggested to discuss the topic here, and I am not the one who added it to the category...
- p-adic 12:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Citation to a personal page[]
The current article refers to a personal work in Cloudy's user page (althou there are so many contributors), but it does not seem to be a valid source of a number. So, I think that it is better to remove the reference.
p-adic 12:44, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- You mean the description of
- Sam's Number has also appeared in the salad number Croutonillion.
- I agree to delete it. Actually in the page of Croutonillion many notations in the googology wiki appears. Writing such description to all the pages which appears in Croutonillion page is nonsense, and such description has no useful information. 🐟 Fish fish fish ... 🐠 16:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, that description. I see. Then if nobody disagrees, I (or another user) will remove the description.
- p-adic 22:51, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
I believe Sam's Number is uncomputable[]
I watched the "Ultimate list of large numbers" video and it says "Sam's Number" in "Ill-defined uncomputable numbers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusV0741 (talk • contribs)
- No, it isn't. Do not make that video as a source, as it seems unreliable. As the definition says
- "Sam's number is so gigantically huge it cannot be described. It boggles the mind. Actually, it would boggle a megafugafzgargoogolplex minds.
- If you want a small glimpse of how big it is, here. Sam's Number is enormously larger than Rayo's Number. It can fill a greagol multiverses. Actually it can fill so much more than that, it is undescribable."
- the definition is too vague and it doesn't define a number, and cannot be classified as an uncomputable number. I revert your edit, so do not add it again. 🐟 Fish fish fish ... 🐠 21:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- I found that it is more clearly described at List_of_googolisms/Uncomputable_numbers#Warning. I cite the whole paragraph, as it is important to also keep it in this talk page.
- A reader should be extremely careful that there are many abuses of Sam's Number in personal websites, videos, and user blogs, which was listed in the wiki in the past and later got removed, due to the fact that Sam's Number is only just a "described" number without any definitions and is actually not considered to be a defined number at all, and merely remains as an in-joke among googologists. In addition, Sam's Number is not only completely ill-defined but also not considered to actually be an uncomputable number in any sort and is completely unclassed. The original definition was also intended to be larger than Oblivion and Utter Oblivion (but later it no longer does as DeepLineMadom pointed out in his blog post). Moreover, when assuming that Sam's Number to be well-defined, it could theoretically have infinitely many possible definitions.
Here is the link to the video, and skip to 2:47:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRrm1EaqMYc
—Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusV0741 (talk • contribs)
- 2020 googology is irrelevant to 2023 googology. That's all you need to know, and that Sam's Number is unclassed. Redstonepillager 23:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
There's NO difference between "uncomputable" and "unclassed"[]
And again, Sam's number is ABSOLUTELY an uncomputable number.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusV0741 (talk • contribs)
- “Uncomputable” and “Unclassed” are 2 completely different categories. “Uncomputable” are for actual uncomputable numbers such as Rayo's number, while “Unclassed” is for numbers that are completely undefined, just like Sam’s number. So stop claiming that Sam’s number is uncomputable.
- HaydenTheGoogologist2009 00:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
It's on the link to the "numbers list" video. On 2 hours, 47 minutes and 49 seconds. Sam's Number is on "Ill defined uncomputable numbers.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusV0741 (talk • contribs)
- I think that you are not understanding the actual definition of uncomputability, and that you are not understanding that a video is not necessarily an academically trustworthy peer-reviewed source. At least, since others are explaining the mathematical incorrectness of your claim, just requiring to check such a video is not appropriate. Instead, you can argue on the correctness of your claim by referring to actual mathematical definitions and actuall mathematical incorrectness of others' claims.
- p-adic 00:41, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
Reverting log[]
I reverted Special:Diff/433031/433034 because of the replacement of definition and citation, which violates to Googology_Wiki:Guideline#Why_do_we_need_retrieval_date?.
However, the original source is somewhy non-existing or inaccessible. Should we simply delete the suspicious description (and forbid to add a new version of the definition in order to avoid the deletion of the source for the purpose of updating a definition)?
p-adic 10:32, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I can access the source now. Maybe it was temporally unavailable when you accessed? 🐟 Fish fish fish ... 🐠 11:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I still cannot. Then one needs an account to access it, right?
- p-adic 12:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Is it possible to put that in web archive? (I could not. Since the creator is trying to change the definition, it is good to archive it.)
- p-adic 23:21, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you!
- p-adic 21:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Series based on “Sam’s Number”[]
I’ll be releasing my own series based on Sam's Number, called “Twelve Variations on ‘Sam’s Number’”, inspired by Mozart’s “Twelve Variations on "Ah vous dirai-je, Maman". There’ll be 12 variations on my definition of Sam’s Number.
HaydenTheGoogologist2009 14:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's officially released.
- HaydenTheGoogologist2009 14:54, 12 August 2024 (UTC)